tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post6037465834964087064..comments2023-10-16T13:06:42.360+01:00Comments on Happiness of Being: The Teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi: Self-investigation and sexual restraint(Interview on Celibacy: Part 1)Michael Jameshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03460943269122289281noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-37734575724502425072019-07-08T15:48:19.910+01:002019-07-08T15:48:19.910+01:00Yes Sanjay, I was only talking about Bhagavan'...Yes Sanjay, I was only talking about Bhagavan's devotees and not about the real devotees. The real ones for sure cannot have any animosity at all. Since I see fault in others I must belong to the not real devotees of Bhagavan. Hopefully eventually I'll become a real one.. .https://www.blogger.com/profile/03243347924405863536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-8468644115045370142019-07-08T10:44:29.224+01:002019-07-08T10:44:29.224+01:00Sanjay,
"Why see outside and find faults in o...Sanjay,<br />"Why see outside and find faults in others? Why not always remain inturned and ignore the outside world? Bhagavan is making them mature at their own pace."<br />Your above questions are quite right and justified, but your last sentence applies also to fault-finders and not-ignorer of an outside world.:-)<br />By the way, why did you refrain from commenting on Michael's blog for such a long period ?:-)anadi-anantahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08815024045988099944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-72224270502916052042019-07-07T08:06:08.446+01:002019-07-07T08:06:08.446+01:00There can be no real animosity among Bhagavan'...There can be no real animosity among Bhagavan's real devotees. Yes, sometimes we do not like when many devotees have a very superficial understanding of Bhagavan's teachings, and they feel they have become masters of Bhagavan's teachings. However, even to see such shortcomings in others is only due to our weakness. Why see outside and find faults in others? Why not always remain inturned and ignore the outside world? Bhagavan is making them mature at their own pace.Sanjay Lohiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02384912997886218824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-34756995715611805362019-07-04T10:30:54.844+01:002019-07-04T10:30:54.844+01:00Unknown,
"Animosity among devotees? It wouldn...Unknown,<br />"Animosity among devotees? It wouldn't be the first and not the last time."<br />As long as ego is not merged back to its source how can there be any room free of egoism ? <br />Perhaps for choosing the selection of "75 Old Devotees" it was not irrelevant that Sadhu Om was only a few years with Bhagavan Ramana or Sadhu Om's voice was too high.:-)anadi-anantahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08815024045988099944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-82493870316813198102019-07-04T03:55:27.598+01:002019-07-04T03:55:27.598+01:00Yes, being the grand nephew of Bhagavan does not g...Yes, being the grand nephew of Bhagavan does not guarantee a high level. But is that not true with anything or everybody? Since we cannot know others level of understanding it has little relevance to even bring that up and therefore it does not merit any consideration.<br /><br />So we are back to square one and I am still wondering why Sadhu Om was not mentioned. If Ganesan would have picked 10 or 20 devotees I'd have understood it since he had to make certain choices. But 75 plus the attendants? Sadhu Om is an obvious choice and since he's not mentioned it seems deliberate for me. Animosity among devotees? It wouldn't be the first and not the last time. Purification of mind does NOT reflect on one’s outward behavior, a purified mind is no mind and any perceived behavior is illusionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03403745904820287115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-581455871351104182019-07-04T00:00:24.293+01:002019-07-04T00:00:24.293+01:00Unknown,
perhaps one should not leave out of consi...Unknown,<br />perhaps one should not leave out of consideration that merely being a grand nephew of Bhagavan does not guarantee one the highest level of understanding.<br /><br />anadi-anantahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08815024045988099944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-1368770975241797652019-07-03T21:27:28.643+01:002019-07-03T21:27:28.643+01:00I came across a publication by the Grand Nephew of...I came across a publication by the Grand Nephew of Bhagavan, Ganesan, called "Inner Journey of 75 Old Devotees". It has many interesting stories of those devotees encounters with Bhagavan and includes many, many names.<br /><br />But - to my surprise - there is no mentioning of Sadhu Om at all. Even some of the attendants were named, so why did Ganesan leave out Sadhu Om? That cannot be a coincidence but deliberate.<br /><br />. .https://www.blogger.com/profile/03243347924405863536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-88318910990506862072019-06-30T21:13:52.760+01:002019-06-30T21:13:52.760+01:00The sex instinct is probably one of the strongest....The sex instinct is probably one of the strongest. While one can at times remain for months even years without it causing an issue, it has a way of popping out just when you think it no longer controls you. As Michael said as long as ego exists, so will such things. Yet there has to be engagement of vichara while battling with such instincts. As it arises asking to whom is this desire rising for does help to subside it and return to I awareness, which brings you back to the truth, which is even the semblance of awareness is worth a thousand times more than the spit of tiny pleasure derived from such things. But in the moment our desire to experience such "trivial" pleasures usually wins. Nonetheless even if sometimes via inquiry the desire subsides it is good and beneficial in my opinion. Inquiry is the golden ticket out for everything; if the patient truly wants to be cured of the disease that is the body. Yet we all take perverse pleasure in being sick. Bhagavan has given us the medicine for ultimate health, yet we ourselves have to take it. That is the real thing, do we want it? Sex is not the problem, we as ego is the real problem, we wish to continue existing as this seperate thing and being at dis ease. There will come a day when we'll be sick of being so sick, until then we have to keep turning within everytime such things desires raise their heads pursuing the inquiry, and getting at the very root to whom all these desires appear. With love. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-51604420742225233952016-02-06T00:00:17.158+00:002016-02-06T00:00:17.158+00:00Salutations to Bhagawan sri Ramana Guru and Mr. Mi...Salutations to Bhagawan sri Ramana Guru and Mr. Michael James. You have given 100% perfect revelation of the nature of all desires, gratification et all. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-68041295864492961732015-10-13T19:40:47.614+01:002015-10-13T19:40:47.614+01:00Dear Michael James:
I have now read the interview ...Dear Michael James:<br />I have now read the interview in full, and have found it very enlightening in the subject. You are truly an expert in Bhagavan's teachings. I send to you heartfelt congratulations.<br />Best regard.<br />Daniel<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-1053874552112217182015-10-13T17:05:20.197+01:002015-10-13T17:05:20.197+01:00Dear Suddha hrdaya:
I apologize for my misundersta...Dear Suddha hrdaya:<br />I apologize for my misunderstanding, and I am very grateful to you for your advices.<br />Thank you very much and best regards.<br />DanielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-7971248141412196712015-10-13T16:35:19.026+01:002015-10-13T16:35:19.026+01:00Dear Anonymus with name Daniel,
you must read the ...Dear Anonymus with name Daniel,<br />you must read the exact wording literally, word for word: Those were my very words: 'In the present moment' does not at all mean 'anymore'. So to my sincere regret I cannot claim to be completely released from sufferings caused by frustrated sexual wishful dreams. Therefore in all honesty I am not in the position to give you any recipe to get free of sexual longing. But I can advise you to watch your way of thinking and feeling, your sensations, perceptions, viewpoints, ideas, passions and ardours exactly, carefully,rigorously and critically when being under (sudden) sexual "attacks" or invasions, onslaughts, bouts, seizures, paroxysms, spasms. Then you will have a clear picture or general impression of the total "amount" of your desire. Then you can clear up the list of satisfactions you would like. You have to check and examine what is going to happen now and what does get you any further. Then you can decide which developments or events you will follow up and which line of ideas you will pursue further. If you are lucky the power of sexual desire will gradually adapt to your spiritual ripeness. Showing a minimum of willingness/obligingness, vigilance and self-control will take the wind out of the sails of the storm tides of your erotic desires. Ultimately sexuality will not impede your travel on the path to the destination of being attentively self-aware. Not eyery dream picture of an erotic adventure/affair will be able to be a worry to you.Suddha hrdayanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-78908325553564793382015-10-13T13:54:36.699+01:002015-10-13T13:54:36.699+01:00Dear Michael James:
You are right, I apologize, th...Dear Michael James:<br />You are right, I apologize, this is finally a matter of words, and as such not of much importance. I just tried to figure out the reply of Bhagavan if one would tell him "I agree with what you said" or "I don't agree with what you said". And I guess that his reply would be "find out who agrees or who doesn't agree". That is the one important question.<br /><br /><br />Dear Suddha Hrdaya:<br />If you are not anymore troubled by sexual desire (and keep smiling) I can't do anything more than congratulate you, and perhaps ask for some recipe you can tell me.<br /><br />Best regards for everybody,<br />DanielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-8996830497120454352015-10-13T13:13:14.806+01:002015-10-13T13:13:14.806+01:00Anonymous, the words ‘Do you agree with what Sri R...Anonymous, the words ‘Do you agree with what Sri Ramana said above?’ were the question that I was asked, so they are not intended to be a title. However, I agree with the rest of what you write. Who are we to agree or disagree with Bhagavan?<br /><br />Though the wording of the interviewer’s question was perhaps not entirely appropriate, I do not think he meant any disrespect, but just wanted to prompt me to discuss what Bhagavan had said in the passages he quoted. Moreover, though we have the greatest respect and love for Bhagavan, we cannot expect all people to have the same respect or love, so when we are asked questions about his teachings we have to empathise with the questioner’s viewpoint and try to answer to the best of our ability.Michael Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03460943269122289281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-35658553913014399432015-10-13T12:46:44.838+01:002015-10-13T12:46:44.838+01:00Anonymus,
I think that the question "Do you a...Anonymus,<br />I think that the question "Do you agree...?" is asked as a kind of catch/trick question. But "our" Michael James is surely suited to answer in a(the)proper or appropriate manner because according his writings he seems to understand Sri Ramana's teachings much better than I do. And I do think I already am a specialist on true understanding.Smiling. <br />It is just the nature of our mind that it likes to discuss everything imaginable topic - without regard having spiritual ripeness or comprehension.<br />Of course we should internalize the teachings of "realized beings" by persevering practice of "deeply meditation" and trying to realize that our real being (our own essential self) is just already realized pure self-awareness(atma-svarupa). Only the fog of our deep ignorance casts a cloud over our happiness of being and makes us experiencing the illusion that we are this ego. <br />In the present moment I am happy to be not troubled by sexual desire. <br />Om namo Bhagavate Sri Aruna Achala Siva, Arunachalaaa...Suddha hrdayanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-86267884298186619252015-10-13T10:19:18.989+01:002015-10-13T10:19:18.989+01:00I think that the title "Do you agree with wha...I think that the title "Do you agree with what Sri Ramana said above?" is out of place and unrespectful. The words of realized beings like Bhagavan Sri Ramana or Jesus Christ are not to be debated and disputed about, they are to be deeply meditated and tried to realize in our hearts. I think that it rather should be said: "Can you understand what Sri Ramana said above?", or "is your mind ripe enough to comprehend Sri Ramana's words?". Best regards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-80406555090159421432015-09-04T06:21:50.907+01:002015-09-04T06:21:50.907+01:00Dear Michaelji,
Greatly benifitted by this articl...Dear Michaelji, <br />Greatly benifitted by this article since it contains the summary of sri bhagavan's teaching.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />Sujan<br />Sujannoreply@blogger.com