tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post1173693549603818706..comments2023-10-16T13:06:42.360+01:00Comments on Happiness of Being: The Teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi: Being attentively self-aware does not entail any subject-object relationshipMichael Jameshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03460943269122289281noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-79465037657292212612015-12-30T21:54:43.216+00:002015-12-30T21:54:43.216+00:00Michael,
I regret to say that I am still the same ...Michael,<br />I regret to say that I am still the same world-champion as Diogenes told us.<br />At best I am now vice-world-champion.<br />But I continue trusting also in Arunachala.<br />Therefore I put up my prayer again to Arunachala. Bhuminathanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-61076906742463920902015-09-04T01:28:23.723+01:002015-09-04T01:28:23.723+01:00Michael,
that is what I call an "unfair compe...Michael,<br />that is what I call an "unfair competition".<br />That even Bhagavan was not able to defend his title as supreme champion of destitution<br />shows the merciless inexorableness of the competition.(Smile).<br />To lose that title to Bhagavan does not disturb me in the slightest. <br />While/When Bhagavan complains to Arunachala about his lack of supreme wisdom he did obviously derive pleasure from slipping into our role.Diogenesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-62360427121958894682015-09-03T10:52:02.235+01:002015-09-03T10:52:02.235+01:00Diogenes, when you write ‘I am world-champion to o...Diogenes, when you write ‘I am world-champion to overlook my self-awareness. I am unbeatable at choosing to be attentively aware of other things. I am a master to direct my attention away from its source’, you are perhaps not aware of the stiff competition you face, because I suspect that most of us would claim ‘No, I am the rightful champion’. Even Bhagavan himself entered the competition when he sang in verse 9 of <i>Śrī Aruṇācala Patikam</i>: ‘பரம நின் பாதம் பற்று அற பற்றும் பர அறி வறியரில் பரமன்’ (<i>parama niṉ pādam paṯṟu aṟa paṯṟum para aṟi vaṟiyaril paramaṉ</i>), which means ‘Supreme, [I am] supreme among those who are destitute of the supreme wisdom to cling without attachment to your feet’.Michael Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03460943269122289281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-48038072474045280022015-09-02T23:57:48.538+01:002015-09-02T23:57:48.538+01:00Michael,
my attempts to develop persistence in try...Michael,<br />my attempts to develop persistence in trying to be attentively aware do not win olympic gold medals. So I have to pray to Arunachala as (my) real self that He/it may encourage my effort to improve the needed quality of my perseverance.Diogenesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-4174575191130220082015-07-20T22:25:52.536+01:002015-07-20T22:25:52.536+01:00Michael,
I am world-champion to overlook my ...Michael, <br />I am world-champion to overlook my self-awareness.<br />I am unbeatable at choosing to be attentively aware of other things.<br />I am a master to direct my attention away from its source.<br /><br />I am miles and miles away of the state of being as I really am.<br /><br />Therefore I will continue to try to be attentively self-aware to acquire the skill to do so. I cannot see any alternative or any other way.<br /><br />All the best to my fellow-sufferer.<br />ArunachalaDiogenesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-18163021944403354942015-05-19T19:47:11.565+01:002015-05-19T19:47:11.565+01:00Michael,
When in my previous comment on the articl...Michael,<br />When in my previous comment on the article "Trying to see the seer" I referred to the supposed relationship between the subject and itself (mentioned by you as subject-subject relationship) I was in anyway influenced/ predetermined/pre-programmed namely by our language structure: Considered purely from the point of view of grammar a reflexive relationship between the subject and itself is also a relationship although not between two different things.<br /> <br />That’s a relief ! As you write the subject experiences itself only as itself, the subject. Therefore the subject is not an object of its own action or experience. In the case of our awareness of ourself only we are involved. In order to experience ourself we do not need any features . So now I can learn the skill of practising self-investigation that is being attentively self-aware with an easy mind - undisturbed by any involved (distinct) highwayman.<br />Michael, there cannot be better messages than<br /> „Being ‚aware of myself‘ is an entirely subjective experience“!<br />„ Nothing is entailed in that experience but myself“!<br />„To be ATTENTIVELY self-aware is certainly possible“!<br /><br />May Arunachala keep watch over me that my spontaneus longing for being ATTENTIVELY self-aware will not be a flash in the pan or just a passing fancy.<br />May Annamalai prompt me to persevere in trying to focus my attention to myself even when my balance was getting lost.<br />May Arunadri encourage my persistence with trying to be ATTENTIVELY self-aware and to remain more steadily in a state of simple self-attentiveness.<br />May Sonagiri prevent my attention from diverting away towards other (more) interesting things.Diogenesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-33412490951699522012015-05-11T09:49:42.612+01:002015-05-11T09:49:42.612+01:00Talk 390.
D.: When I read Sri Bhagavan’s works I ...Talk 390.<br /><br />D.: When I read Sri Bhagavan’s works I find that investigation is said<br />to be the one method for Realisation.<br /><br />M.: Yes, that is vichara.<br /><br />D.: How is that to be done?<br /><br />M.: The questioner must admit the existence of his self. “I AM” is the<br />Realisation. To pursue the clue till Realisation is vichara. Vichara<br />and Realisation are the same.<br /><br />D.: It is elusive. What shall I meditate upon?<br /><br />M.: Meditation requires an object to meditate upon, whereas there is<br />only the subject without the object in vichara. Meditation differs<br />from vichara in this way.<br />dragomirescuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15404991190680614292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7345918888953765241.post-73860308014174183842015-05-05T13:34:21.219+01:002015-05-05T13:34:21.219+01:00Thanks Michael for your meaningful article.
Partic...Thanks Michael for your meaningful article.<br />Particularly the excursion in the field of grammar and linguistic instruction I will still think out carefully.<br />What you say in section 3. Being self-aware is not an adjunct but what I essentially am <br />"However , even to call it a subjective experience is not entirely correct[...], so when I am aware of myself alone, my self-awareness transcends the state of being a self-aware subject." is something of a bomb shell.<br />That most of our attention is preoccupied with all the other seemingly interesting or attractive things that we are now experiencing or desireing is unfortunately a hard fact. <br />That I did not try persistenly to be attentively self-aware is for the simple reason that I did not meet with sufficient succed. But thank God there is some urgent interest in our self-awareness and curiosity about what we actually/really are.<br />Regretably for the moment I evidently do not experience self-awareness just as a state of natural and effortless being.Diogenesnoreply@blogger.com